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he fought the nra. he was a prosecuting district attorney in philadelphia but did not see eye to eye on w the nra. and in this a very pro-hunting state able to be elected for two terms. it can be done. it requires the ongoing focus of many of us who won't allow january to come and people's memories to fade. >> right. and john, just quickly, the issue that the two republicans we've just played specifically the congressman saying that we need to address the issue of mental health in this country. and perhaps ignoring signs that are there. my question is, why is there a perception that you cannot do both at the same time? why can't there be legislative action immediately if there's the desire of the people and overwhelming numbers show 57% if not higher asking americans if they want stricter gun controls, that i say yes. why does it have to be one or the other, mental health or some type of reasonable or sensible common sense ban on certain weapons? >> m-o-n-e-y. the republican party gets 80% or 90% of the
he fought the nra. he was a prosecuting district attorney in philadelphia but did not see eye to eye on w the nra. and in this a very pro-hunting state able to be elected for two terms. it can be done. it requires the ongoing focus of many of us who won't allow january to come and people's memories to fade. >> right. and john, just quickly, the issue that the two republicans we've just played specifically the congressman saying that we need to address the issue of mental health in this...
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. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the facts about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law, no set of laws can can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless ablt of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. almost 24 hours ago, president obama called for a change in this country. now it's up to all of us to make sure changes come to pass. the community of newtown connecticut is still deeply mourning the lives of 26 people, 20 of them children. the president struck an almost impossible balance of heartfelt emotion and out r
. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the facts about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role...
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we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an assault weapons ban was re-enacted, what about all those firearms that are already in circulation? how do we resolve the existing presence of lethal weapons in america today? >> you know, the last ban on assault weapons was riddled, literally riddled, with loopholes, including grandfathering in the right to keep the assault rifle that you already had in your possession. i am against that loophole. i am against, you know, the kinds of loopholes that allow gun shows to sell guns without proper identification to private buyers. you know, i think that we have got to look at reasonable, sensible laws that ke
we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an...
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the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all u.s. service men and women killed in all foreign wars combined. it is also a stat that chairman of the stop handgun violence quoted in the huffington post blog titled "enough dead children from gun violence." and joins me now live. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> let's ask for your reaction of the nra silent except waiting to get more information on the investigation. >> well, the nra has virtually owned the republican party and they have intimidated the democrats in to submission. so, you know, they're just going to lay in the weeds. they al
the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all...
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. >> the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! >> reporter: the nra leader had barely begun when protesters blamed the powerful lobby for the nation's epidemic of gun violence. >> nra, stop killing our children! >> reporter: but the nra was defiant. after remaining silent in the wake of the worst elementary school shooting in the nation's history, wayne lapierre was on the attack, blaming others for the recent carnage. high on the list, violent video games. >> there exists in this country, a callous, corrupt, and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. >> reporter: nra officials insist new laws restricting gun owners, including a ban on assault rifles, won't work. the primary solution the nra offers, armed security in every school. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: critics pounced. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: new york city mayor michael bloomberg called the nra st
. >> the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! >> reporter: the nra leader had barely begun when protesters blamed the powerful lobby for the nation's epidemic of gun violence. >> nra, stop killing our children! >> reporter: but the nra was defiant. after remaining silent in the wake of the worst elementary school shooting in the nation's history, wayne lapierre was on the attack, blaming others for the recent carnage. high on the list, violent video games....
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as i said yesterday, do you think the nra has power? their number one priority was to defeat barack obama. last time i checked, he's going to be innaug rated again. >> the nra has stopped tweeting. it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing its grip on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as slate points out, nra has not lost any kind of vote on gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted "aye" are all gone and al gore's tie-breaking "aye" became the focus on the campaign against him. and just days before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, they were fearmongering over gun laws. on december 5th the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme stacked with antigun judges. the president has a variety of options at his disposal. we
as i said yesterday, do you think the nra has power? their number one priority was to defeat barack obama. last time i checked, he's going to be innaug rated again. >> the nra has stopped tweeting. it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing its grip on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as slate points out,...
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various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but this statement actually was different. "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." the nra's planning to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21st. a major news conference planned for tomorrow in response to that mass shooting. as far as we can tell, the nra has never reacted to a mass shooting in the way that they are very proudly promoting this news conference for tomorrow. they've certainly never said anything like they said in this statement about being prepared to offer meaningful contributions
various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but...
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it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff. david corn is the washington bureau chief for mother jones magazine and msnbc contributor, jared bernstein was chief economic adviser to vice president biden. gentlemen, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to meeting with senate majority leader harry reid. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner, and i also met with senator reid. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protects unemployed f
it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with...
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>> well, i'm not going to speak for the nra on that issue. >> don't you speak for the nra? i'm just a little confused. you don't work for the nra? they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that
>> well, i'm not going to speak for the nra on that issue. >> don't you speak for the nra? i'm just a little confused. you don't work for the nra? they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons...
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the nra. wendy gillette is live in connecticut. >> reporter: it is such an emotional day for everyone who lives around here. when those bells tolled we saw a couple dozen or so people who went to stand by a makeshift memorial around the corner from here as they looked at bears, balloons, some wept as they reflected on a week that has been so difficult and caused so much pain. bells tolled in newtown, connecticut and across the nation. 26 rings in all, one for each of the 26 victims killed inside sandy hook elementary. the moment of silence was held 9:30 this morning when the gunman began his rampage in the school one week ago killing six adults and 20 children. the remembrance of the victims extended to the white house. president obama honored the moment of silence behind closed doors. he sent out a tweet beforehand that says: 20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults, together we will carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. earlier today, the president released a video res
the nra. wendy gillette is live in connecticut. >> reporter: it is such an emotional day for everyone who lives around here. when those bells tolled we saw a couple dozen or so people who went to stand by a makeshift memorial around the corner from here as they looked at bears, balloons, some wept as they reflected on a week that has been so difficult and caused so much pain. bells tolled in newtown, connecticut and across the nation. 26 rings in all, one for each of the 26 victims killed...
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and i want to do something. >> shame on the nra. shame on the nra. >> reporter: but mid march they hear this. >> arm the teachers, arm the principals. >> reporter: arm the teachers, arm the principals the man is saying. three days after the second worst school shooting in american history, the debate over gun control wages on the sidewalks outside the largest gun lobbying group in the country. >> perhaps the answer is to allow teachers and principals and other people to defend themselves. >> i can't believe that more guns and guns for everyone is the solution. >> we'll be back. >> it's unacceptable when you see these faces. shame on all of us if we're not doing something about it. >> reporter: in washington, kristin fisher, 9news. >>> as we learn more about the shooting rampage in connecticut, we're learning more about a chilling school threat in northwest indiana. 60-year-old vaughn myer was taken into custody after he allegedly threatened to go to a grade school and kill as many people as he could before police could stop him. he
and i want to do something. >> shame on the nra. shame on the nra. >> reporter: but mid march they hear this. >> arm the teachers, arm the principals. >> reporter: arm the teachers, arm the principals the man is saying. three days after the second worst school shooting in american history, the debate over gun control wages on the sidewalks outside the largest gun lobbying group in the country. >> perhaps the answer is to allow teachers and principals and other...
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we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to have a gun. where do they get that from? there's one line in luke where jesus says buys a sword and he's speaking metaphorically and he tells him not to use sword. where do people get this notion of a god-given right to guns? >> they don't get it from the religious traditions. they get it from various elements of political culture that simply have no place in our religious thinking. we're created in the image of god. all of our major traditions embrace that principle. nothing defiles the image of god as much as pointing a gun at a small child and pullin
we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to...
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the nra needs to face the truth." okey moronu says " no matter what the entertainment media did, the nra provided the tools for the perpetrators to execute their plans. get rid of the guns. and the nra has blood on their hands, and anybody associated with them will suffer politically. keep sharing your thoughts with us on our facebook page and twitter using the #edshow. >>> still to come, the fiscal cliff stalemate could cost john boehner his job as house speaker. but let me tell you, there are millions of unemployed americans out there. it could cost them their benefits and a lot of pain. that's ahead. stay with us. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." nobody likes a scrooge, and i've got the numbers to prove it. darden restaurants, ever heard of them -- the umbrella corporation behind chains olive garden and red lobster, well, they did their best to avoid providing their workers with health care. now they're paying the price. here is the story. back in october, the company launched an anti-obama care experiment. darde
the nra needs to face the truth." okey moronu says " no matter what the entertainment media did, the nra provided the tools for the perpetrators to execute their plans. get rid of the guns. and the nra has blood on their hands, and anybody associated with them will suffer politically. keep sharing your thoughts with us on our facebook page and twitter using the #edshow. >>> still to come, the fiscal cliff stalemate could cost john boehner his job as house speaker. but let me...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." the washington post assigns a certain number of pinochios to politicians that might be factually challenged. we were part of the big ones saying that je
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in california, others supported the nra. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so, if you have somebody that is armed and you are not, you are part of the problem, you are not part of the solution. >> i think it's a good idea. but you are going to have to train these people on how to use weapons. because once you start shooting inside of a classroom, someone will get hurt. the thing is not to let the intruder go into the classroom. >> reporter: how many armed guards to you need? every room, every door? the nra did not take questions after making the statement. don? >> thank you very much. lots more to
i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in...
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la pierre may, may have damaged the nra's case. by virtue of how that friday press conference went over. miguel? >> barbara starr, thank you very much in washington. >>> and now, to the fiscal cliff. and we are just about to go over the edge. congress has left for the holidays. if they don't get a deal done soon, tax increases and budget cuts will hit after the first of the year. earlier, republican congressman, steve la tourette said the president has been too focused on tax cuts for the rich. but he did leave the door open a little. >> i'm okay, you president, you can tax the rich people. but come up with some spending cuts, we're borrowing $1 trillion a year and he has not. >> indiana senator joe lieberman said he's more pessimistic than he's ever been that a deal will get done. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner's so-called plan b, the first time that i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that, if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal conseq
la pierre may, may have damaged the nra's case. by virtue of how that friday press conference went over. miguel? >> barbara starr, thank you very much in washington. >>> and now, to the fiscal cliff. and we are just about to go over the edge. congress has left for the holidays. if they don't get a deal done soon, tax increases and budget cuts will hit after the first of the year. earlier, republican congressman, steve la tourette said the president has been too focused on tax...
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the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young black men in the innercity. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have much higher rates than young white men. you. >> wrote a brilliant piece after the movie theater shooting in colorado saying, in 2008 and 2009, gun homicide was the leading cause of death for young black men. they died from gun violence mainly at the hands of other black males at a rate of eight times that of other young white males. all tragedies justifiably spark horror. the nra is not the only meaningful obstacle to reform. unfortunately, violence like this in the black community just doesn't get as much attention, or in l
the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young black men in the innercity. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have...
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would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, leave the area. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, that 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you'd rather continue to risk the alternative? >> because that's your stan
would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you...
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how powerful the nra be now? and the pro-and legislators like west virginia's manchin this is all things are now on the table? >> it is a good first that, but her law clearly exempts far too many farms and frankly, all the ones sold on the day before the bill to be retained, including these enormously powerful weapons that lead to these massacres should not be part of that bill. we need to have new thinking and go much farther than what was on the table in 1994. >> very quickly, lisa graves, what happened in michigan around gun laws in the last election and what will happen at the state level? >> one of the things that happened last week was not just the lame-duck legislature in michigan pushed through union busting legislation, but also pushed through part of the expanding the availability of concealed firearms in michigan. that is part of the alec agenda. it is to allow people to carry concealed weapons. what they do is play offense -- the nra plays opposite says more people need guns. they want people to be mo
how powerful the nra be now? and the pro-and legislators like west virginia's manchin this is all things are now on the table? >> it is a good first that, but her law clearly exempts far too many farms and frankly, all the ones sold on the day before the bill to be retained, including these enormously powerful weapons that lead to these massacres should not be part of that bill. we need to have new thinking and go much farther than what was on the table in 1994. >> very quickly,...
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and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even at one point i said to them, would you answer even one question? are you willing to talk to the white house about any of this, even to that, they just kept walking. that was a big disappointment and sort of set the tone for the room. >> when wayne lapierre said falsehoods about semiautomatic weapons and the media are demonizing gun owners, is he right? >> no. but even before that what he got was a priceless gift of 25 minutes of free media from those news organizations that elected to carry it live. and i bet they were rather disappointed when they learned, as you just said, tom, that there woul
and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even...
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>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have a musket because you have to be of a militia. militias are the people who are supposed to be carrying out the public order, protecting domestic tranquility, not creating trouble. they're supposed to be helping to protect against. these guys, these nuts come on and say i need my gun to fight my government. >> yeah. no, that's the police department, your state police, the national guard, and under -- i can't even imagine the circumstance. that's why we have the army. this is -- it's an absurdity, quite frankly, and the wonderful thing about
>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have...
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i had an nra rating of an "a." but you know, enough is enough. >> again, these are two pro-gun democrats. big movement from them on this issue. more and more americans seem to be getting on board with the idea of tighter gun control laws in this country. a new cbs news poll shows 57% now believe we need stricter gun laws. that's an increase of 18% since april. one guy, though, who doesn't seem to agree, texas governor rick perry, he is sticking to his guns so to speak. at a state tea party forum last night, perry took issue with calls for stricter gun control laws following the newtown, connecticut massacre. >> in the state of texas with our concealed handgun license, if you go through the process and you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state. >> perry says we need to make schools safer. if that means arming teachers and administrators, he says he's fine with that. lawmakers need to address
i had an nra rating of an "a." but you know, enough is enough. >> again, these are two pro-gun democrats. big movement from them on this issue. more and more americans seem to be getting on board with the idea of tighter gun control laws in this country. a new cbs news poll shows 57% now believe we need stricter gun laws. that's an increase of 18% since april. one guy, though, who doesn't seem to agree, texas governor rick perry, he is sticking to his guns so to speak. at a...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that...
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and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west everybody talks about the wild west, the wild west, almost every part of the wild west you check your guns at the door before you walk in somewhere in a wild west town is the way it used to be. i worked for senator bentsen. he represented texas. he helped pass the assault weapons ban. though it may not solve the problem, i expected wayne lapierre, i actually expected wayne lapierre to stand up and say exactly what he said and then say oh by the way i have stuck to doom dogmatic positions for too long and it's time to ban the -- >> this is the importance. the nra is built on my
and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west...
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the nra. wendy gillette is live in connecticut. >> reporter: it is such an emotional day for everyone who lives around here. when those bells tolled we saw a couple dozen or so people who went to stand by a makeshift memorial around the corner from here as they looked at bears, balloons, some wept as they reflected on a week that has been so difficult and caused so much pain. bells tolled in newtown, connecticut and across the nation. 26 rings in all, one for each of the 26 victims killed inside sandy hook elementary. the moment of silence was held 9:30 this morning when the gunman began his rampage in the school one week ago killing six adults and 20 children. the remembrance of the victims extended to the white house. president obama honored the moment of silence behind closed doors. he sent out a tweet beforehand that says: 20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults, together we will carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. earlier today, the president released a video res
the nra. wendy gillette is live in connecticut. >> reporter: it is such an emotional day for everyone who lives around here. when those bells tolled we saw a couple dozen or so people who went to stand by a makeshift memorial around the corner from here as they looked at bears, balloons, some wept as they reflected on a week that has been so difficult and caused so much pain. bells tolled in newtown, connecticut and across the nation. 26 rings in all, one for each of the 26 victims killed...
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but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn it is guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply lose in the general election. the public has lost its appetite for the nra's political agenda of unlimited access to guns. >> you know, debra, the nra has remained very quiet in the wake of this tragedy, and often in the wake of other school shootings. and then come out pretty hard against legislation down the road once attention has faded away. do you think it's going to be any different now? do you think there is a change in the public's attitude? >> well, we'll have to wait and see. i can tell that you in tennessee they were quite hypocritical of
but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn it is guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply...
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even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press" yesterday and had strong words calling on the president to exhibit leadership on the issue. i think there is a sense nationally that this time is different. we just talked to chris jansing on the ground in newtown, but that there is -- that i think for folks who have wanted to see reform on our nation's gun laws, that this could be an inflexion point. does the mayor share that feeling? >> he hopes so. you know, i may be alone in this, but i am just no longer comforted by comforting words. i feel like as the governor said, you know, we've become very good at doing these memorials after these events and then nothing
even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press"...
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is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a lot in the months prior about this being sort of the sticking point, the threshold, but nancy pelosi was on record. she was on charlie rose, speaker boehner's office points this out, saying, look, let's just raise taxes on millionaires. is it difficult for house democrats to walk that back now that they've been on the record saying that? >> not particularly. i mean, we understand the gop is very good at their communication strategy. they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a
is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a...
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mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and investigation. >>> an altercation inside an east baltimore school lands one woman behind bars. it happened at the national academy foundation preparatory school. the woman forced her way in carrying a birthday cake. workers say she claims she was visiting a relative but didn't have permission to be there. during a confrontation she pulled out a knife. >>> investigators are trying to determine the cause of a two alarm fire in baltimore county. fite broke out at a home on the 200 block of ashwood road in dundalk. two children escaped after noticing flames. n
mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and...
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that was a different nra i think. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and, but they became politically the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others, and eventually by charles heston was a spokesman for that faction, and now we have, you know, wayne firmly in the saddle, and politically it's very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby here in washington. it plays basically on the backlash on people's fears of, well, if crime is rising and the police can't do anything about it, then how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed, murdered, rained, and so on? we need firearms to defend ourselves, and the nra certainly has been playing on that line for many years. >> host: but as crime was rising in the 80s and early 1990s, crack cocaine and the gangs and more sophisticated guns, congress acted again. i mean, really only the third time they acted to do gun c
that was a different nra i think. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and, but they became politically the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others, and eventually by charles heston was a spokesman for that faction, and now we have, you know, wayne firmly in the saddle, and politically it's very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. it's also been...
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the nra's contribution? more guns. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> given the nra's track record, this is no idle chatter from a grand-standing lobbyist. this is what they do best. for most of the nra's history, the organization acted chiefly as a sporting and hunting association. in the first 100 plus years of its existence, the nra stuck to training and marksmanship and while they have had a legislative affairs division since the 1930s, it wasn't until the mid 1970s that the organization made a radical turn into politics. since 1980, 44 states have passed some form of law advocated by the nra that allows gun owners to carry concealed weapons. just in the past four years across 37 states, the nra and its allies have helped to pass 99 laws making guns easier to own, to carry in public, and harder to track. the group has helped pass legal gems like allowing gun owners in kansas to carry co
the nra's contribution? more guns. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> given the nra's track record, this is no idle chatter from a grand-standing lobbyist. this is what they do best. for most of the nra's history, the organization acted chiefly as a sporting and hunting association. in the first 100 plus years of its existence, the nra stuck to training and...
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i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible members of the national rifle association. the one guns to hunt. they want guns to protect their home of their house. the recommendation of an arms escalation in america is not, i think, a solution the american people believe i am very hopeful that we will go in a direction which will say that these weapons of mass killing capability will be limited. magazines will be limited. we will make sure that people who have access to dangerous weapons in fact are mentally healthy, to the extent that we can get there. i do not think those remarks, which i think or unfor
i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible...
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the nra took no questions. instead it was a presentation that offered up a plan as one nra official said to stop the next killer waiting in the wings. in a town where terror descended exactly one week ago, today a moment of silence was observed. >> now we must speak. >> reporter: silent no more is the national rifle association of america. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: today nra executive vice president wayne lapierre to protecting students and said he says since the president and certain members of congress have armed security, why not our children. he says he wants armed officers at schools and the government to help pay for it. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> nra, stop killing our children. >> reporter: protesters stopped the presentation twice. >> we don't want this overly powerful lobby group, the nra, which is extremely powerf
the nra took no questions. instead it was a presentation that offered up a plan as one nra official said to stop the next killer waiting in the wings. in a town where terror descended exactly one week ago, today a moment of silence was observed. >> now we must speak. >> reporter: silent no more is the national rifle association of america. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: today nra executive vice president wayne...
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answer the question, who does the nra speak for? >> it is hard to disentangle all the different people they kind of represent, but you have to look at it this way. they receive millions and millions of corporate donations. since about 2005, the policy center found they received $38.9 million from various gun industry groups and people that sell ammo, that sell assault-style weapons that were used in the tragedy in newtown. but, at the same time, you kind of scope that back and look at their entire budget, right? this group is about 220, $250 million they will spend in a year. and a vast majority comes from the dues they pay and the ads they send to those members. at one time you have this kind of very avid and very vocal group of gun owners sort of the grassroots. at the same time, you have this corporate element and some of the biggest donors individually are also the corporate elements. >> is the second amendments right advocacy group or is this a lobbying force for the gun industry? >> again, it is kind of hard to say, where does
answer the question, who does the nra speak for? >> it is hard to disentangle all the different people they kind of represent, but you have to look at it this way. they receive millions and millions of corporate donations. since about 2005, the policy center found they received $38.9 million from various gun industry groups and people that sell ammo, that sell assault-style weapons that were used in the tragedy in newtown. but, at the same time, you kind of scope that back and look at...
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the head of the nra hits back at his critics. i >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools, then call me crazy. >> his only interview since tt tragedy in newtown and that defying announcement tuesday. >>> pulling back the curtain, what mir a he is son just revealed about his father's run for the white house that has a lot of people talking tonight. >>> i spy with my little eye. the government issues a warning to parents about who's tracking your kids, their personal information and what they're doing on all those mobile devices. >>> and how does he do it? >> he types is the house number and then the name appears up on the ipad. >> for the inside scoop on all things santa, we went straight to the experts. >> he showed me where the elves were. >>> good evening. after the his defiant and controversial response on friday to renewed calls for stronger gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting, the head of the nra finally took questions today. wayne lapierre sat down with nbc's david gre
the head of the nra hits back at his critics. i >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools, then call me crazy. >> his only interview since tt tragedy in newtown and that defying announcement tuesday. >>> pulling back the curtain, what mir a he is son just revealed about his father's run for the white house that has a lot of people talking tonight. >>> i spy with my little eye. the government issues a warning to parents about...
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questions, the head of the nra unveiled this plan. today wayne la pierre defends himself. >> when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into that school, if a good guy with a gun was there, he might have been able to stop them. >> reporter: the massacre as sandy hook has led some supporters to call for guns in schools. the nra supporters blame the media, and the lack of mental health care are having none of it. >> you're saying they shouldn't be part of this at all? >> congress will debate, but i think it's not part of the ultimate solution on this. >> reporter: at least one school district in new jersey will place armed guards in schools to the disapproval of the governor. >> you don't want to make this an armed camp for kids. i don't think that's a positive example for children. >> reporter: a poll shows a majority of americans continue to favor more restrictions on gun ownership. that may be the reason other americans are flocking to gun stores. shelves empty in this north carolina store. >> we've never seen anything like th
questions, the head of the nra unveiled this plan. today wayne la pierre defends himself. >> when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into that school, if a good guy with a gun was there, he might have been able to stop them. >> reporter: the massacre as sandy hook has led some supporters to call for guns in schools. the nra supporters blame the media, and the lack of mental health care are having none of it. >> you're saying they shouldn't be part of this at all?...
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there should be more guns on campus, not fewer. >> nra says there should be an armed police officer at every school. >> abc 7 news mark matthews is here, got quite a reaction today it did. and a few expected the nra to come out in favor of gun control but executive vice president never brought it up. national rifle association sent a sharp mess yachblgt no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> nra meter said what is needed is an armed police officer in every single school. and he accused washington of rank hypocrisy for protecting the president but failing to do the same for school children. >> we as a society leave them every day utterly defenseless. >> nravp unloaded on the news media and condemned producers of violent video games and the police chief points out there is no mention of gun autos to suggest that guns shouldn't be part of the conversation? i think that is ridiculous. >> the chief calls it crazy to allow the clips and weapons of war on our city streets. >> i have guns myself. but... to have a assault rifle sni don't an
there should be more guns on campus, not fewer. >> nra says there should be an armed police officer at every school. >> abc 7 news mark matthews is here, got quite a reaction today it did. and a few expected the nra to come out in favor of gun control but executive vice president never brought it up. national rifle association sent a sharp mess yachblgt no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> nra meter said what is...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot to say again about who he thinks is to blame. have a listen. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political -- for 20 years they always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible
what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot...
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...
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this is nra members. 74% of nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a background check. and they support banning people on the terrorist watch list from buying weapons. that is not in force. you can buy a gun in america if you are on the terrorist watch list. if we are going to get past the fear on of doing anything at all on gun rights. if we get past the myth of trying to reform gun laws is impossible as a catigroical thing, what if we started with what even the members of the nra want from national gun laws because they want a hell of a lot more than we have right now. the organization that they are a member of may not admit it, but when you poll the members they want improvements. can we start with what nra members want? joining us is carolyn mccarthy, thank you for joining us tonight. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel and thank you for giving out that important information to your audience. >> we have had meaningful conversations about gun control, that does not happen after tucson and aurora, do you feel this time could be difference?
this is nra members. 74% of nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a background check. and they support banning people on the terrorist watch list from buying weapons. that is not in force. you can buy a gun in america if you are on the terrorist watch list. if we are going to get past the fear on of doing anything at all on gun rights. if we get past the myth of trying to reform gun laws is impossible as a catigroical thing, what if we started with what...
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meantime, we now have a statement from the nra. the group is breaking their silence, they say, and i'm quoting, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. if i might begin with professor dyson, do you believe this claim from the nra, sir? >> well, we'll see if it turns out to be true. let's argue in good faith. let's negotiate in good faith. let's assume they're willing to do something. such a statement of course is a sign of progress. it's a sign that everybody realizes that all parties to this must come together, must converge around a common interest, and that is to protect our children and to do whatever is necessary to make them safe. martin, i'm going to offer them my goodwill belief that they're willing to do the right thing, but it can't just be willingness. it has to be political pressure brought to bear as has been done in this case and not only on the nra, but to all parties, to the senate, to the presidency, to congress, to the house of representatives to make sure
meantime, we now have a statement from the nra. the group is breaking their silence, they say, and i'm quoting, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. if i might begin with professor dyson, do you believe this claim from the nra, sir? >> well, we'll see if it turns out to be true. let's argue in good faith. let's negotiate in good faith. let's assume they're willing to do something. such a statement of course is a sign of...
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. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least they tried to do something. but they took no personal responsibility. and no intro aspects at all. it was disgusting to most americans. is there any evidence at all that putting armed guards in school will protect children? >> i mean, there just doesn't seem to be any evidence of it. certainly senator bloumenthal doesn't think so and we didn't get a chance to ask questions of the nra, because they didn't take questions from reporters. plenty of parents would not be comfortable with certainly having more guns in schools. for example, in the shoo
. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least...
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demonstrators held up signs saying nra, blood on your hands and the nra is killing our kids. critics are blasting today's response about making schools safer. ahead in 9 minutes bay area educators tell fuss more guns would -- teleus more guns would better protect our students -- tell us more guns would better protect our students. >>> a twist on the gun buy back next month. in addition to purchases guns from residents authorities will buy back violent video games. >> you just don't need to have hathat kind of carnage exposed to our young people. and, it -- it will open up the dialogue, i hope, with families to know what is going on. >> the marin gun and buy back is set for january 15th. martin luther king junior's birthday. the video games will be destroyed. >>> in the south bay, the police say they arrested a woman with connection to a deadly home invasion robbery. the authorities say 22-year-old raven dixon was arrested on tuesday on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder along with drug and prostitution charges. venture capitollist was found dead and his wife was beaten
demonstrators held up signs saying nra, blood on your hands and the nra is killing our kids. critics are blasting today's response about making schools safer. ahead in 9 minutes bay area educators tell fuss more guns would -- teleus more guns would better protect our students -- tell us more guns would better protect our students. >>> a twist on the gun buy back next month. in addition to purchases guns from residents authorities will buy back violent video games. >> you just...
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shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the nra press conference. fred says interesting that the nra is talking about security while being unable to secure its own press conference. jodi asked will the nra never admit that assault weapons are not necessary and kill countless people? our fans also love this photo of the president observing a moment of silence for sandy hook this morning. derold said i prayed that we can learn how to resolve problems without the use of guns. we want to hear what you think, too. please, head over to facebook and search po"politics nation" d like us t
shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the...
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but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in gun safety. i can think of a piece of legislation in 2007, the nixon improvement act to incentive states to report of people to be mentally disabled or a danger to themselves or others or suicidal. in to a national database. that was legislation written by the nra. passed by george w. bush. i would expect to see more efforts along those lines. around mental health. i know because i know the nra that they're interested in having a conversation. but they want to talk about what works. and unfortunately, calling a school a gun-free zone and slapping a sticker on it is an immoshl lack of attention to the issue of s
but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in...
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tonight, the nra and its supporters are doubling down. we're hearing reports of a rush at gun shows and stores across america today, people buying assault weapons before a possible ban. as nra executives fanned out across the air waves with a message of defiance. abc's david kerley is on the story. >> reporter: the nra today stuck by its guns, that every american school should have an armed guard. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> the nra has blood on its hands! >> reporter: two days ago. amid protesters and refusing to take questions, the head of the nra unveiled this plan. belittled by some. today wayne lapierre defends himself. >> when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into that school, if a good guy with a gun was there, he might have been able to stop them. >> reporter: the murder massacre in newtown, connecticut, has led some nra supporters to call for control of guns and magazine clips. the nra supporters blame the media, the ente
tonight, the nra and its supporters are doubling down. we're hearing reports of a rush at gun shows and stores across america today, people buying assault weapons before a possible ban. as nra executives fanned out across the air waves with a message of defiance. abc's david kerley is on the story. >> reporter: the nra today stuck by its guns, that every american school should have an armed guard. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to...
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so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from. i think from there, we should start to pare it down and develop that idea a little bit more. >> since we do have armed people whether in our courthouses or our police stations and whatnot. i definitely think our schools would be a great place to protect our children while they're there, as well. >> we're hearing reaction for and against the nra's proposal. and we want to hear from you too this morning. what do you think of the gun lobby's idea to put armed guards in schools? you can tweet me @randikayecnn. >>> and we're remembering the victims of the newtown
so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from....
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i have had an nra rating of an "a," but, you know, enough is enough. i have got -- i'm father of three daughters, and this weekend they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? and i like i think most of us realize that there are ways to get to rational gun control. there are ways to grapple with the obvious challenges of mental illness. >> those wonderful words in the bible about you must become like a child. the interesting approach and i was thinking in so many cases in recent history you have seen the young in this country, the people under 30, for example, who have led the way on issues like same-sex marriage, on issues like even obama's election to the presidency and so many cases. do you think this is an area where young kids are going to say to their parents, get over this nra fixation, be loyal to us kids, not to them? >> i think that's exactly what we're hearing now and that's why you heard joe manchin from west virginia saying the same thing. you had harry reid, who is quite pro-gun out there making some favorable noise. a lot of these i
i have had an nra rating of an "a," but, you know, enough is enough. i have got -- i'm father of three daughters, and this weekend they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? and i like i think most of us realize that there are ways to get to rational gun control. there are ways to grapple with the obvious challenges of mental illness. >> those wonderful words in the bible about you must become like a child. the interesting approach and i was thinking in so many cases in...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know...
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the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model for the schools for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, don't touch them. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because i think this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, the 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you would rather consider to risk the alternative. >> that's your standard, that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here and the standard here is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be shared, shouldn't we try that, that's the standard, isn't it? >> my standard is this. you can't legislation moral
the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model for the schools for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, don't touch them. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because i think this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd...
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the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious, violent video games. i mean, we have blood-soaked films out there. a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke. and they play murder, portray murder as a way of life. and throughout it all, to many in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as conspirators. >> music, video games, videos, at one point he blamed hurricanes for whatever is the bad thing that happens next. but definitely not guns
the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and...
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this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're going to try to puncture the myth that anything to reform or rationalize gun laws is absolutely politically impossible as a categorical thing, what would happen if we just started at the edges? what would happen if we just started even members of the nra say they want from national gun laws? because they want a hell of a lot more than we've got right now. the organization they are a member of may not admit that, but when you poll their members, even they want improvements. could we at least start with what nra members want? joining us now is congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. she is a democrat of new
this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're...
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about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action.
about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every...
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the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa hutchinson, a former republican congressman from arkansas who said he didn't think new laws and prohibition is the right way to respond to what happened in sandy hook and compared the nra plan to put a trained guard in every american school to the federal air marshal program put in place after 9/11. >> more sensitive that be airplanes. people resisted having weapons on airplanes but i oversaw the federal air marshals and it's a deterrent, no one sees that weapon but they're protected on the airplane and it's a positive impact on safety. schools are a sensitive environment as well.
the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa...
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i was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, that they became polluted we the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown and replaced by others but eventually charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction and now we have way montpelier firmly in the saddle and politically is a different organization from what it was in 1960. clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts of money and because maybe the most powerful lobby here in washington and it plays basically in the backlash of people's fears. if crime is rising and police can't do anything about it, how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed, murdered and so on. when he firearms in the nra has been playing on that line for many years. >> guest: is crime is rising in the 80s and early 90s, crack and more sophisticated god, congress acted again. really only the third time they reacted. the brady bill and the assault weapon ban. how does that fit into the chronology? >> guest: well, you had the attempted assass
i was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, that they became polluted we the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown and replaced by others but eventually charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction and now we have way montpelier firmly in the saddle and politically is a different organization from what it was in 1960. clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts...
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the nra pledges to make sure this never happens again and it is going to hold a news conference on friday. >>> dick's sporting goods stopped selling assault weapons and wal-mart pulled the bush master assault rifle, the gun used in newtown. other gun dealers are seeing a surge in sales. >> reporter: assault rifles are flying off the shelves here. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular assault rifle. >> people shoot for sport, most of the people that come in here. it's a fun gun to shoot. >> reporter: the ar-15 is the civilian version of the m-16 used by the military and it's the gun of choice in movies and video. it's also been used in some of the worst mass shoes shootings in history. last week a man used one to kill two people at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. in july it was used in the movie theater massacrein colorado. but friday's slaying at sandy hook elementary led to serious talk of a ban on the assault rifle. >> every time a tragedy happens, they bring it up again, but hopefully common sense will prevail and our rights won't be ininged. >> reporter
the nra pledges to make sure this never happens again and it is going to hold a news conference on friday. >>> dick's sporting goods stopped selling assault weapons and wal-mart pulled the bush master assault rifle, the gun used in newtown. other gun dealers are seeing a surge in sales. >> reporter: assault rifles are flying off the shelves here. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular assault rifle. >> people shoot for sport, most of the people...
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this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the statement of meaningful contributions that the nra said they are ready to discuss? >> we are going to find out on friday. that's when they have a pressure in washington and come forth with whatever their contributions might be. i think the nra will make a gross calculation if they maintain that line in the sand and that position of never giving an inch. one practical consideration in my home, we have four kids. the gifts are wrapped. this won't be a holiday season where we get into christmas and forget. for parents it's going to accentuate the recogn
this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the...
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you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so forth, but putting this on the table, talking about the mental health part and what cultural influences might send people off in a direction like this, would be a very good process. we want to prevent things like this from happening, and the best way to do that is to consider all of the angles. what is it in our culture that is limiting it's a to this. >> jennifer: would you be in favor of closing the gun show loophole that prevents people who may be mentally ill from having a background check? >> yes, and on a state level there a are things that states c
you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so...
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that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand? and tammie jenkens says i thought about this the other day. if you know i'm armed you are less likely to attack me. and from hawkeye dave it's like dealing with teenage pregnancy by saying they should just say no. you can find me @randikaye/cnn twitter. >>> dedicated mother, olympian. that's the clean side of this sordid tale. wait till you hear the other part of this story. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male
that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand?...
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. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-called assault weapons. so they're buying up everything. >> reporter: an abc news "washington post" poll show more americans continue to favor more restrictions on gun ownership. even sales of gun safes are shooting up. >> people are definitely concerned about the safety of their families and kids. >> reporter: a week after the massacre of those innocent children and adults in newtown, connecticut, the head of the national rifle association unveiled his plan, calling for every american school to have an armed guard. >> when that hor
. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people...
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and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible infringement on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of his statement today is his insistence that we have a registry for people who mental illness. if you're treated for depression, all of a sudden you're on a registry. at the same time, the nra has opposed a gun registry so we can track who has these weapons. so the nra says we want to know who has a history of mental illness, but we frankly don't want to know whether those individuals or anybody else has a gun. it just doesn't make any sense. what this stunt was today was a smoke screen to try to distract people from where this country is moving. this country is m
and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible infringement on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of...
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shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now in the newsroom, the opening bell rang at the stock exchange. stocks will close early, 1:00 eastern for the holiday. if you're wondering who's ringing the bell, these are the 12 festive dancers from the monte carlo. i wish they'd ring the bell every day, don't you? onto the news. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo is apologizing after being arrested and charged with driv
shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get...
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nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will spend christmas. but the president says he will return to the white house after the holiday to continue working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining me now, white house editor from politico, rachel smolkin. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> holiday red there, rachel. i will begin with you. is there any realistic timetable where a deal gets done beforian 1? look at the calendar. >> there's a realistic timetable but not an optimistic timetable. not a lot of holiday cheer going on in the nation's capital. after the stunning is heback sp
nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will...
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this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem, chris. it's become this slippery slope argument, which is any -- >> i hate that phrase. >> i hate the slippery slope. >> okay. let's say assault weapons or these high caliber -- these high pack rounds, if they do that, what will they do next? >> find a way. let's be honest about it. can we be honest about it? >> you can't have a discussion -- >> you know what the problem is? there is a sliver of american people who are anti-gun. they would like to go around the country and collect every gun. let's be honest, they are there, they live in big cities, in apartments, they think the police will be there to protect them.
this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem,...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...